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Offline oldshooterman

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« Reply #120 on: 28 December 2018, 13:57 »
AMD nu e un client mai mare decat Nvidia la TSMC, si nu are nici o exclusivitate. Faptul ca au o diversitate mai mare de produse nu inseamna ca valoarea totala a comenzilor e mai mare decat a Nvidia. In ultimele 6 trimestre Nvidia a facut un profit comparabil cu toate activele AMD cumulate, ca valoare...

Revenind la Navi, primele placi ar putea fi lansate in martie, dupa ultimele "zvonuri".
 

Offline axxel4you

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« Reply #121 on: 28 December 2018, 15:21 »
Presupun ca nu tine numai de cine este client mai mare, mai trebuie sa ai si arhitectura pusa la punct pentru productia de masa cu pierderi cat mai mici. Nu este asa simplu sa treci pe 7nm cu pierderi mici doar prin micsorarea chipului direct. Eu cred ca Navi de la AMD va avea aceeasi configuratie cu Fiji si Vega cu frecventa si eficienta mai ridicata doar din cauza procesului de fabricatie. S-ar parea ca nu sunt singurul care crede asa ceva, Welcome GCN 6.0 https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-next.c3339 .
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Offline oldshooterman

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« Reply #122 on: 28 December 2018, 15:42 »
Ce ai spus tu e ceva evident. Poate ai scapat faza cu faptul ca au deja cipul Navi pe 7nm in laboratorul de teste si ca performeaza peste asteptari. E posibil sa scoata cipul cu GDDR6 in loc de HBM2 ca sa mai reduca din potentialele pierderi. Arhitectura fiind scalabila pot folosi ambele tipuri de memorie.
 

Offline axxel4you

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« Reply #123 on: 28 December 2018, 16:14 »
Ok, deci e evident ca Fiji = Vega = Navi ca si arhitectura, nu ca si performanta. E timpul sa strangeti bani pentru RTX 2080Ti ca nu cred ca Navi (Fiji reloaded) va reprezenta o amenintare pentru Nvidia .
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Offline astateofmind

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« Reply #124 on: 28 December 2018, 16:17 »
Ok, deci e evident ca Fiji = Vega = Navi ca si arhitectura, nu ca si performanta. E timpul sa strangeti bani pentru RTX 2080Ti ca nu cred ca Navi (Fiji reloaded) va reprezenta o amenintare pentru Nvidia .


Hmmm, sa o spuna un fanboy amd? Nu ma asteptam. Dar cam asta e realitatea. Macar de ar scoate ceva la performanta de 1080ti ...
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Offline Trustme

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« Reply #125 on: 29 December 2018, 22:12 »
Poate ca Navi nu o sa se bata cu RTX 2080 TI , dar sa nu uitam ca AMD imbatraneste mai frumos.  ;)
 

Offline skerbyte

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« Reply #126 on: 01 January 2019, 21:28 »
Formerly known as AMD FireRays, Radeon Rays 2.0 is targeted at content developers who want to utilize high-performance ray-tracing capabilities with AMD GPUs, CPUs, and APUs via asynchronous compute. Unlike Nvidia’s RTX ray-tracing technology, which runs on Microsoft’s DirectX Raytracing API, Radeon Rays is open source and conforms to the OpenCL 1.2 standard, so it could be deployed with non-AMD hardware and on multiple OS environments.

Whereas Nvidia seems to be poised to launch real-time ray-tracing in games within this year (despite currently limited GPU support for RTX), Radeon Rays is still very much a developer tool. However, AMD is on the same path with its new ProRender release, which now supports real-time GPU acceleration of ray-tracing techniques mixed with traditional rasterization-based rendering and is now built on the Vulkan 1.1 API, which is fully supported by GNC-based AMD GPUs with the latest Radeon Software Adrenalin Edition driver.
 

Offline oldshooterman

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« Reply #127 on: 09 January 2019, 20:35 »
AMD Launches The Radeon VII Graphics Card – The World’s First 7nm Gaming GPU for $699 MSRP[/b]

E vorba de performanta peste RTX 2080, ceva cu totul neasteptat! ;D
 

Offline axxel4you

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« Reply #128 on: 10 January 2019, 09:19 »
Din pacate Radeon VII nu este cipul full https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/amd-vega-20.g848 , s-ar putea doar in rezolutii ridicate sa se descurce cat de cat bine https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-vii.c3358 .
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Offline KodiaK

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« Reply #129 on: 10 January 2019, 10:05 »
Hmm, sper ca glumesc cu msrp-ul ala. Adica perf de 2070 dar cu 200$ mai scumpa. AMD, wtf you doing? :o
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Offline Tzeb

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« Reply #130 on: 10 January 2019, 10:17 »
Se repeta istoria vega64 - 1080. Vega mai scumpa la raft ca 1080, performanta intre 1070 si 1080, cu rarele exceptii unde este peste 1080, consum mai ridicat.

La fel va fi si anul asta. Sunt cu o generatie si ceva in urma, n-ai ce sa le ceri. E soarta de underdog.
 

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« Reply #131 on: 10 January 2019, 10:37 »
Mai bine scoteau cu 8gb mai ieftina
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Offline slicker

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« Reply #132 on: 10 January 2019, 10:38 »
Se repeta istoria vega64 - 1080. Vega mai scumpa la raft ca 1080, performanta intre 1070 si 1080, cu rarele exceptii unde este peste 1080, consum mai ridicat.

La fel va fi si anul asta. Sunt cu o generatie si ceva in urma, n-ai ce sa le ceri. E soarta de underdog.

Eu acolo vad perf mult peste 2080. Daca imi scoate 35% mai mult n BF5 in DX12, eu zic sarumana si nu in 4k sau cacaturi de astea. Pana apar benchurile eu sper :)
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Offline axxel4you

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« Reply #133 on: 10 January 2019, 10:44 »
La cum arata configuratia cipului doar in 4k s-ar putea sa aiba ceva performanta mai buna ca RTX 2080 .
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Offline Trustme

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« Reply #134 on: 10 January 2019, 13:07 »
Navi asta stie si el de RT si DLSS?
Mi-ar place sa concureze cu RTX 2080, dar mi-e teama sa nu calce pe urmele lui vega64 care pe hartie concura cu GTX 1080TI iar cand a fost lansata placa abia daca se tinea dupa GTX 1080 FE. Oricum, AMD pare sa-si fi invatat lectia. Consuma doar 300W, cu 50W mai putin decat vega64 si este foarte aproape de RTX 2080 cu al lui tdp de 215W.