Avem si niste preturi in RO pt 3070...
Frumoase vise de ~2850 lei, olds... Care btw e 500euro + tva, deci fix cat ziceam eu la 3080 si 3090 si nu ma contraziceai.

E absud sa te astepti la un pret apropiat de MSRP la lansare si inca nici nu sunt pe piata. Vor fi si custom sub 2800 lei dupa ce se calmeaza piata.

"Increasing the resolution to 4k removes any and all CPU bottlenecks. And here we can see the 3070 is between 19 and 37% slower than the 3080. Though when not limited by VRAM capacity it's only up to 28% slower." min.14.30



Adica cantitatea insuficienta de memorie duce la scaderea performantei cu aproape 10%. 

Situatia cu memoria e clara si e remarcata intr-un numar mare de review-uri.

"Nvidia never tires of emphasizing that the storage capacities of the RTX-30 graphics cards were chosen deliberately, as they are sufficient . Our observations and measurements say otherwise - we don't look at the margin, after all. In fact, the Geforce RTX 3070 8GB shows symptoms of memory deficiency a little more often in the WQHD intended for it than the Geforce RTX 3080 10GB in Ultra HD. Both models are supported by gracious streaming systems, which address the graphics memory up to a percentage upper limit and also simply omit texture details. We are really not telling loyal PCGH readers anything new here. Let me tell everyone else: What is still enough today may be too little tomorrow. We are about to launch a new generation of consoles, which will bring new multiplatform games with new graphics and new standards. Although new technologies such as Variable Rate Shading and DirectStorage are in the starting blocks to increase efficiency, experience shows that it will take a long time for these ideas to penetrate the market. We are talking about years, not months. On the other hand, there is the fact that most developers do not have the time to optimize their work for months. There will always be games that literally run like nuts. PC gamers like to deal with this problem with strong hardware - but the Geforce RTX 3070 lacks this buffer. Memory hogs like Horizon: Zero Dawn, Ghost Recon Breakpoint, Wolfenstein Youngblood and a few others are already showing where the journey is headed. Ray tracing makes things worse due to the increased memory requirement."(pcgameshardware.de/Geforce-RTX-3070-Grafikkarte-276747/Tests)

Situatia cu memoria e clara si e remarcata intr-un numar mare de review-uri.

"Nvidia never tires of emphasizing that the storage capacities of the RTX-30 graphics cards were chosen deliberately, as they are sufficient . Our observations and measurements say otherwise - we don't look at the margin, after all. In fact, the Geforce RTX 3070 8GB shows symptoms of memory deficiency a little more often in the WQHD intended for it than the Geforce RTX 3080 10GB in Ultra HD. Both models are supported by gracious streaming systems, which address the graphics memory up to a percentage upper limit and also simply omit texture details. We are really not telling loyal PCGH readers anything new here. Let me tell everyone else: What is still enough today may be too little tomorrow. We are about to launch a new generation of consoles, which will bring new multiplatform games with new graphics and new standards. Although new technologies such as Variable Rate Shading and DirectStorage are in the starting blocks to increase efficiency, experience shows that it will take a long time for these ideas to penetrate the market. We are talking about years, not months. On the other hand, there is the fact that most developers do not have the time to optimize their work for months. There will always be games that literally run like nuts. PC gamers like to deal with this problem with strong hardware - but the Geforce RTX 3070 lacks this buffer. Memory hogs like Horizon: Zero Dawn, Ghost Recon Breakpoint, Wolfenstein Youngblood and a few others are already showing where the journey is headed. Ray tracing makes things worse due to the increased memory requirement."(pcgameshardware.de/Geforce-RTX-3070-Grafikkarte-276747/Tests)

https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Geforce-RTX-3070-Grafikkarte-276747/Tests/vs-2080-Ti-Release-Benchmark-Review-Preis-1359987/2/

Ai posibilitatea de a introduce in grafic si alte rezolutii, inclusiv 4k. Am bifat in vreo 6 jocuri, toate AAA, si n-am vazut o prabusire dramatica a lui 3070 in 4K in dauna celor 11GB ai lui 2080Ti. Diferentele dintre ele din 2K se pastreaza si in 4K. Da, poti forta pana acolo unde cipul grafic poate randa 50fps (unde sigur vei intalni prabusiri sub 30fps, igp rules) pentru a demonstra limitarea memoriei, insa daca cipul nu poate vei fi obligat sa reduci detaliile si vei elibera din memorie. Pentru ca cipul nu poate, nu memoria.
3070 este deliberat castrat pentru a mentine o distanta fata de 3080. Nu cantitatea de memorie e problema la el, ci treimea lipsa la TMUs, ROPs si latimea de banda. Probleme, vorba vine, caci nu poate fi vreo problema la o placa video care ofera performantele lui 2080Ti la jumatate de pret.

Sa vedem lucrurile corect. 3070 cu 10GB si 3080 cu 12GB memorie ar fi fost niste super placi video la preturile respective (chiar si ceva mai mari). Toata treaba e o frectie intentionata ca sa mai aprinda inca o data spiritele peste cateva luni, cu alte modele cu memorie mai multa si la un pret mai mare.
Si asa sunt foarte bune la preturile anuntate, dar nu le cumperi (la modul generic) cu sufletul impacat.

Ce a scris W1zzard la concluzii:

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The GeForce RTX 3070 comes with 8 GB of memory, which will be the basis for a lot of discussion, just like on the RTX 3080 10 GB. I feel like 8 GB is plenty of memory for the moment, especially considering this card is targeted at 1440p gaming, which isn't as memory-intensive as 4K. Even with 4K, I feel you'll run out of shading power long before memory becomes an issue.

sunt sigur ca Vrajitorul are dreptate, dar daca ne uitam numai aici intre noi pe forum, olds, eu, Kodiak, asom, andreeaki, probabil Mykai, deja avem monitoare 4K.
cred ca 4K-ul este mai mainstream decat i se acorda atentie
pana la urma, 2080Ti a fost considerata placa video 4K, nu cred ca-i exagerat cand spun ca si 3070 este 4K tinand cont ca-s la egalitate

asom a mai facut acum un test si uite cum cei 10GB s-au cam umplut, plus jocurile mentionate de olds, plus testele cu Neon Noir
sunt de acord cu olds, daca ar fi pus inca 2GB VRAM in plus, era si mai reusita seria RTX 3000 (este o serie reusita, putere GPU si pretul MSRP vorbind, restul.....)

mie unul, avand puterea GPU-ului necesara, nu mi-ar conveni sa scad texturile (sau calitatea RT-ului), pt a nu umple VRAM-ul, nici n-as vrea s-am o asemenea grija, sincer sa fiu