Author Topic: De ce Romania nu e la fel de dezvoltata ca Polonia, Cehia, Ungaria, Bulgaria sau Croatia?  (Read 3957 times)

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alex khan

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aiurea

 romanii-s latini.
ffs dudes




Suntem latini fiindca asa pretindem.

Dar in realitate nu suntem in totalitate.
Genetic vorbind, ne tragem cam din toata Mediterana  si de pe stepele Eurasiei.

 


 

Offline Irenicus

Genetic vorbin nu ai cum sa fii altcumva cand locuiesti la intersectia a 3 continente. Omul se referea din punct de vedere cultural, si acolo suntem mega latini. Da o fuga pana in Italia sau Spania sa te convingi.
 

Offline astateofmind

Mai degraba mega balcanici. Da o fuga pana in bulgaria sa te convingi. Dar nu pe litoral, ca acolo sunt mai vestici decat noi ...
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Offline Irenicus

Ar fi ridicol sa nu avem nicio trasatura culturala in comun cu tarile vecine desi balcanismul scade in intensitate pe masura ce mergi spre nord. Oradea si Cluj parca-s alta lume fata de Slobozia si Giurgiu.

Pe de alta parte apucaturile de la ginte mostenire se vad si doar daca te uiti la clasele politice din tarile cu pricina sau faci o scurta comparatie intre politicienii nostri si senatorii romani.
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Monier

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dlor, se poate sa acceptam raspunderea de partea celor in viata, si sa nu dam vina pe morti?

adica e vorba de coruptie, comunism, status qvo, ..caractere slabe, needucate, neajutorati samd. acel sistem ierarhic bolsevic si-a gasit teren fertil pe taramul FANARIOT. dar, genetic vorbind, orice om isi poate folosi acea mostenire in sens bun sau rau.
eu nu cred ca a sta si a te plange este ceva balcanic, ci un lucru extrem de comun omeneste. adica nu e vorba de genetica. abuzuri se intampla peste tot, pe oriunde fiecare isi face de cap! la fel si neputinta.
v-ati uitat in oglinda, suntem noi delfini, pisici, caini de rasa?
« Last Edit: 17 June 2018, 20:44 by Monier »
 

Offline c6t9

Românii fac treabă excelentă cu o singură condiție. Să nu fie în România.

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Offline Benvolio

Mai degraba mega balcanici. Da o fuga pana in bulgaria sa te convingi. Dar nu pe litoral, ca acolo sunt mai vestici decat noi ...

Cam da.

Dpdv genetic: cum ziceam si pe thread-ul despre Originile Romanilor, predomina genele balcanice si semanam genetic cu bulgarii:

Structura genetică a românilor [23andme]

Dodecad Ancestry Project: Balkan averages (August 2011)


Dpdv lingvistic: lingvistii vorbesc de Balkan Sprachbund (uniunea lingvistica balcanica):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_sprachbund

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The Balkan sprachbund or Balkan language area is the ensemble of areal features—similarities in grammar, syntax, vocabulary and phonology—among the languages of the Balkans. Several features are found across these languages though not all need apply to every single language. The languages in question may be wholly unrelated, belonging to various branches of Indo-European (such as Slavic, Greek, Romance, Albanian and Indo-Aryan) or even outside of Indo-European (such as Turkish). [...]

While they may share little vocabulary, their grammars have very extensive similarities; for example they have similar case and verb conjugation systems and have all become more analytic, although to differing degrees.

Dpdv cultural, avem o multime de obiceiuri si traditii foarte asemanatoare cu bulgarii:

Calusarii aka Калушари



Martisorul aka Martenitsa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martenitsa

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A Martenitsa (Bulgarian: мартеница, pronounced [ˈmartɛnit͡sa], Macedonian: мартинка, Greek: μάρτης, Romanian: mărțișor) is a small piece of adornment, made of white and red yarn and usually in the form of two dolls, a male and a female. Martenitsi are worn from Baba Marta Day (March 1) until the wearer first sees a stork, swallow, or blossoming tree (or until late March). The name of the holiday means "Grandma March" in Bulgarian and the holiday and the wearing of Martenitsi are a Bulgarian tradition related to welcoming the spring

Hora aka Horo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hora_(dance)

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A traditional oro playing in Macedonia
Hora, also known as horo and oro, is a type of circle dance originating in the Balkans but also found in other countries.
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The traditional Bulgarian dance horo (Bulgarian: хоро) comes in many shapes. It is not necessary to be in a circle; a curving line of people is also acceptable. The steps used in a horo dance are extremely diverse. The horo may vary between three and seven or eight steps forward and one to five or six steps back, depending on the specific type.

There are more than five types of horo that are usually danced at every wedding.



Sorcova aka Survachka

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Survakane (Bulgarian: Cypвaкaнe) is a Bulgarian custom used to wish a prosperous new year.[1] Survakane is a tradition performed with a decorated stick, known as a survaknitsa or survachka, on New Year's Day, as a measure for health during the year.[2]



Paparuda aka Peperuda aka Perperuna aka Dodola

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodola

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Peperuda in Bulgaria. 1950s
Dodola (also spelled Doda, Dudulya and Didilya, pronounced: doh-doh-la, doo-doo-lya, or dee-dee-lya) also known under the names Paparuda, Perperuna or Preperuša is a pagan tradition found in the Balkans. A girl, wearing a skirt made of fresh green knitted vines and small branches, sings and dances through the streets of the village, stopping at every house, where the hosts sprinkle water on her. She is accompanied by the people of the village who dance and shout on the music. The custom has attributed a specific type of dance and a specific melody.

etc. etc.

A se vedea si costumele populare bulgare si sarbe:

costume populare bulgare

costume populare sarbe

si ceramica populara bulgara si sarba:

ceramica bulgara

ceramica sarba
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alex khan

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Concluzia e ca suntem mai infratiti cu bulgarii, grecii, sarbii si chiar cu rusii decat cu vest-europenii latini. 
 

Offline Hideyoshi

Concluzia e ca suntem mai infratiti cu bulgarii, grecii, sarbii si chiar cu rusii decat cu vest-europenii latini. 

Baga si albanezii aici. Dar da ... cam asta e bagajul nostru genetic.
 

Monier

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deja am trecut peste faza cu genetica.
.. try and keep up the pace...
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Offline Benvolio

Concluzia e ca suntem mai infratiti cu bulgarii, grecii, sarbii si chiar cu rusii decat cu vest-europenii latini. 

Cu sud-vest-europenii, cu latinii, chiar avem puncte comune - si genetic, un pic, cum ziceam pe celalalt topic, si ca fel de a fi: sociabilitate, relatii de familie, atitudinea fata de munca etc. - si pe linie traco-balcanica, si pe linie latina suntem tot din ramura sud-europeana; de nord-vest europeni ne deosebim mai tare, si noi si latinii vestici.

Cat despre slavii de est, cu rusii mai putin, mai mult cu ucrainenii:

costume populare ucrainene

ceramica ucraineana

A se vedea si ouale incondeiate, prezente si la ucraineni, si la bulgari:

pysanky - oua incondeiate ucrainene

pisano yaytse - oua incondeiate bulgaresti

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pysanka

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A pysanka (Ukrainian: писанка, plural: pysanky) is a Ukrainian Easter egg, decorated with traditional Ukrainian folk designs using a wax-resist method. The word pysanka comes from the verb pysaty, "to write" or "to in scribe", as the designs are not painted on, but written (inscribed) with beeswax.

Many other eastern European ethnic groups decorate eggs using wax resist for Easter. These include the Belarusians (пісанка, pisanka), Bulgarians (писано яйце, pisano yaytse), Carpatho-Rusyns (кашанкы, kašankŷ, or писанкы, pysnankŷ), Croats (pisanica), Czechs (kraslice), Hungarians (hímestojás), Lithuanians (margutis), Poles (pisanka), Romanians (ouă vopsite, încondeiate or împistrite), Serbs (pisanica), Slovaks (kraslica), Slovenes (pirhi, pisanice, or remenke) and Sorbs (jejka pisać).
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